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Topic Title: Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.
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Created On: 01 October 2014 03:20 PM
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 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - 24Hour - 01 October 2014 03:20 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 01 October 2014 03:42 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 01 October 2014 04:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mikejumper - 01 October 2014 04:46 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 01 October 2014 05:01 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - rocknroll - 01 October 2014 05:15 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 01 October 2014 04:52 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 01 October 2014 08:06 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 01 October 2014 04:56 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 08 November 2014 12:03 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 08 November 2014 12:04 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 08 November 2014 12:05 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 05:11 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - 24Hour - 01 October 2014 05:13 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 05:26 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - rocknroll - 01 October 2014 05:55 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - aligarjon - 01 October 2014 06:03 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 06:08 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - rocknroll - 01 October 2014 06:12 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - whjohnson - 01 October 2014 06:35 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 06:49 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - whjohnson - 01 October 2014 06:59 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 07:10 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 07:18 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - rocknroll - 01 October 2014 07:39 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 08:13 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 17 January 2015 08:36 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - stateit - 01 October 2014 08:15 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 01 October 2014 08:28 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 11:08 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 08:33 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - largelunchbox - 15 October 2014 05:37 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - impvan - 01 October 2014 08:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - peteTLM - 01 October 2014 09:01 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 09:01 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - peteTLM - 01 October 2014 09:04 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 01 October 2014 09:25 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 01 October 2014 09:34 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 01 October 2014 09:38 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 01 October 2014 09:58 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - DOUGIE1000 - 01 October 2014 11:41 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Phillron - 01 October 2014 11:49 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - DOUGIE1000 - 02 October 2014 12:29 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 02 October 2014 07:29 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 02 October 2014 08:15 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 23 October 2014 06:16 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 23 October 2014 07:03 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 23 October 2014 07:19 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 23 October 2014 07:40 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 23 October 2014 08:11 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 23 October 2014 09:51 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 23 October 2014 10:04 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 23 October 2014 10:45 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 24 October 2014 02:56 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 24 October 2014 03:15 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 24 October 2014 03:29 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 01 November 2014 08:51 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 01 November 2014 10:23 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 01 November 2014 01:31 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 01 November 2014 01:44 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 07 November 2014 09:19 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 24 October 2014 06:53 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 23 October 2014 07:27 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 08 November 2014 05:37 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 08 November 2014 05:46 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 09 November 2014 03:24 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 02 October 2014 09:32 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - jcm256 - 13 October 2014 08:26 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - bartonp - 15 October 2014 10:19 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 14 October 2014 08:38 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 17 October 2014 08:45 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 18 October 2014 08:42 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - impvan - 20 October 2014 10:25 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - jcm256 - 20 October 2014 05:51 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 21 October 2014 06:13 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 19 October 2014 01:28 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 16 October 2014 12:43 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - 24Hour - 16 October 2014 01:11 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 16 October 2014 02:33 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 16 October 2014 02:45 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 16 October 2014 10:30 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 16 October 2014 10:58 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 18 October 2014 09:01 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 19 October 2014 08:45 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 19 October 2014 09:13 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 19 October 2014 10:48 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 20 October 2014 09:56 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 20 October 2014 06:04 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 20 October 2014 10:13 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 21 October 2014 06:56 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 21 October 2014 07:00 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - elecyvie - 21 October 2014 07:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 21 October 2014 07:18 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 21 October 2014 07:27 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 21 October 2014 07:26 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 21 October 2014 07:30 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 21 October 2014 07:39 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 21 October 2014 08:14 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 21 October 2014 08:25 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - UKPN - 21 October 2014 09:06 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - peteTLM - 21 October 2014 09:15 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 21 October 2014 09:29 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - UKPN - 21 October 2014 09:52 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - slittle - 21 October 2014 10:18 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - UKPN - 21 October 2014 10:23 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 21 October 2014 10:49 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 21 October 2014 10:59 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 22 October 2014 11:22 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 22 October 2014 11:56 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 22 October 2014 12:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 22 October 2014 12:19 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 22 October 2014 02:03 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 23 October 2014 09:01 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 23 October 2014 10:15 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 23 October 2014 10:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 23 October 2014 11:30 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 24 October 2014 06:25 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 24 October 2014 07:39 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 24 October 2014 07:44 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 24 October 2014 09:15 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 24 October 2014 09:25 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 23 October 2014 11:58 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - donglebat - 24 October 2014 07:33 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 24 October 2014 09:23 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 24 October 2014 02:16 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - KFH - 24 October 2014 12:49 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 24 October 2014 01:03 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 24 October 2014 01:25 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 24 October 2014 04:11 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 24 October 2014 04:22 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 24 October 2014 06:00 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 24 October 2014 06:39 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 24 October 2014 07:48 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 25 October 2014 02:07 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 24 October 2014 02:14 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 24 October 2014 02:26 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 24 October 2014 02:48 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 24 October 2014 03:45 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 24 October 2014 04:03 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 24 October 2014 06:37 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 25 October 2014 07:49 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 25 October 2014 08:58 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 26 October 2014 06:51 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 26 October 2014 09:39 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 26 October 2014 06:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 26 October 2014 08:39 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 26 October 2014 09:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 28 October 2014 08:57 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 28 October 2014 09:58 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 29 October 2014 10:59 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 29 October 2014 11:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 26 October 2014 10:17 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 26 October 2014 11:59 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 28 October 2014 09:14 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 28 October 2014 09:41 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - chrisbradley - 28 October 2014 12:43 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 28 October 2014 03:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 29 October 2014 04:15 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 29 October 2014 08:12 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 29 October 2014 04:50 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 29 October 2014 07:37 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - rocknroll - 29 October 2014 08:04 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 29 October 2014 10:31 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 29 October 2014 11:40 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 30 October 2014 06:46 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 30 October 2014 07:26 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 30 October 2014 09:42 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Angram - 30 October 2014 10:34 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 30 October 2014 12:06 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 30 October 2014 01:18 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 30 October 2014 01:18 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 31 October 2014 12:35 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 31 October 2014 08:39 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 01 November 2014 10:01 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 07 November 2014 10:38 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 07 November 2014 12:01 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 07 November 2014 07:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 07 November 2014 08:28 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - spinlondon - 07 November 2014 09:12 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 07 November 2014 09:54 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 07 November 2014 09:57 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 07 November 2014 10:03 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 07 November 2014 10:12 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 08 November 2014 12:21 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 07 November 2014 10:29 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 07 November 2014 11:52 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 07 November 2014 11:53 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 07 November 2014 11:57 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 08 November 2014 09:43 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 08 November 2014 05:57 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 07 November 2014 11:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 07 November 2014 11:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - spinlondon - 07 November 2014 11:59 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 08 November 2014 12:15 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 08 November 2014 09:27 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 08 November 2014 09:31 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 08 November 2014 09:53 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 08 November 2014 10:05 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 08 November 2014 10:20 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 08 November 2014 10:46 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 08 November 2014 10:59 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 08 November 2014 11:36 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 08 November 2014 09:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 08 November 2014 09:21 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 08 November 2014 09:22 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 09 November 2014 09:41 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 08 November 2014 11:40 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 08 November 2014 10:16 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 08 November 2014 10:28 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 08 November 2014 10:34 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 08 November 2014 10:41 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 08 November 2014 12:11 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 08 November 2014 12:14 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 08 November 2014 12:41 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 08 November 2014 12:56 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 08 November 2014 01:40 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 08 November 2014 01:43 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 08 November 2014 01:53 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 08 November 2014 04:25 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 08 November 2014 05:27 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 08 November 2014 05:57 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 08 November 2014 09:42 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 08 November 2014 10:17 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 08 November 2014 10:41 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 08 November 2014 10:56 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 08 November 2014 11:08 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 09 November 2014 02:28 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 08 November 2014 06:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 08 November 2014 06:19 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 08 November 2014 06:22 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - TimJWatts - 09 November 2014 01:54 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - spinlondon - 08 November 2014 07:40 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - bowmandj - 08 November 2014 08:51 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 08 November 2014 09:24 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 08 November 2014 10:32 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 08 November 2014 10:37 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 08 November 2014 10:52 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 09 November 2014 02:28 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 09 November 2014 02:34 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 09 November 2014 02:40 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 09 November 2014 02:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 09 November 2014 03:12 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 09 November 2014 03:22 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 09 November 2014 05:31 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 09 November 2014 06:07 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 09 November 2014 08:40 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 09 November 2014 09:38 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 09 November 2014 02:49 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 09 November 2014 02:54 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 09 November 2014 03:10 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 09 November 2014 03:15 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 09 November 2014 03:16 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Polyamide66 - 09 November 2014 06:56 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 09 November 2014 07:41 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 09 November 2014 03:29 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - jcm256 - 09 November 2014 03:37 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 09 November 2014 04:07 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 09 November 2014 05:00 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 09 November 2014 10:24 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 09 November 2014 03:44 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - John Peckham - 09 November 2014 06:34 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 09 November 2014 07:34 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 09 November 2014 07:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - dickllewellyn - 09 November 2014 09:49 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 09 November 2014 10:42 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 09 November 2014 10:45 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 09 November 2014 10:48 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 10 November 2014 12:03 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 10 November 2014 09:53 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 10 November 2014 12:48 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 10 November 2014 01:09 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 10 November 2014 06:54 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 10 November 2014 08:58 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 10 November 2014 09:19 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 10 November 2014 11:53 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 10 November 2014 02:46 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 10 November 2014 03:25 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - KFH - 10 November 2014 02:45 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 10 November 2014 02:57 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 10 November 2014 03:13 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - jcm256 - 10 November 2014 03:23 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 10 November 2014 03:39 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 10 November 2014 04:50 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 10 November 2014 07:18 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 10 November 2014 07:23 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 10 November 2014 03:23 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 10 November 2014 07:31 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 11 November 2014 01:03 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 11 November 2014 02:25 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - stuartsmiles - 11 November 2014 09:03 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 11 November 2014 09:11 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - stuartsmiles - 11 November 2014 09:18 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 22 November 2014 05:14 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - stuartsmiles - 11 November 2014 09:45 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 11 November 2014 10:48 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - stuartsmiles - 11 November 2014 11:03 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 11 November 2014 11:28 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 21 November 2014 08:16 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 21 November 2014 09:24 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 12 November 2014 08:36 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 12 November 2014 02:31 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 21 November 2014 12:33 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 22 November 2014 09:54 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 22 November 2014 11:28 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 22 November 2014 04:55 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - daveparry1 - 22 November 2014 05:00 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - 24Hour - 22 November 2014 05:41 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - jcm256 - 22 November 2014 07:37 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 23 November 2014 03:38 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - peteTLM - 23 November 2014 08:01 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - IronFreely - 23 November 2014 09:21 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 23 November 2014 09:28 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 23 November 2014 09:29 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 24 November 2014 04:46 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 24 November 2014 10:26 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 24 November 2014 04:54 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 24 November 2014 05:05 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 24 November 2014 05:24 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 24 November 2014 07:19 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - peteTLM - 24 November 2014 09:28 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 24 November 2014 09:41 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - peteTLM - 24 November 2014 11:04 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 24 November 2014 11:30 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 24 November 2014 11:37 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 25 November 2014 05:42 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 25 November 2014 06:47 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 25 November 2014 10:12 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 25 November 2014 11:14 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 25 November 2014 05:04 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - bowmandj - 25 November 2014 11:18 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 25 November 2014 02:30 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 25 November 2014 11:59 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 25 November 2014 01:27 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 25 November 2014 05:57 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - 24Hour - 25 November 2014 07:58 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 26 November 2014 06:56 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 26 November 2014 09:47 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - dickllewellyn - 26 November 2014 10:12 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - bowmandj - 26 November 2014 10:29 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 27 November 2014 09:52 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Crazycolours - 29 November 2014 07:54 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - CopperRod - 04 December 2014 01:27 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - jcm256 - 04 December 2014 07:19 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 04 December 2014 09:44 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 04 December 2014 11:51 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - jcm256 - 05 December 2014 12:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 05 December 2014 12:15 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - dickllewellyn - 04 December 2014 09:04 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 05 December 2014 05:50 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 05 December 2014 06:31 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - dickllewellyn - 05 December 2014 06:34 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 05 December 2014 06:41 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - dickllewellyn - 05 December 2014 07:21 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 05 December 2014 09:39 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 06 December 2014 05:30 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - BillI - 06 December 2014 07:33 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 11 December 2014 10:52 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - jcm256 - 11 December 2014 06:22 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 11 December 2014 06:26 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - weirdbeard - 11 December 2014 06:44 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoomup - 11 December 2014 06:58 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - OMS - 11 December 2014 07:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 11 December 2014 08:51 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 11 December 2014 09:47 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 15 December 2014 04:40 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 15 December 2014 09:36 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 15 December 2014 10:23 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 15 December 2014 10:34 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - dickllewellyn - 16 December 2014 08:12 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 16 December 2014 10:21 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 16 December 2014 06:08 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 16 December 2014 09:33 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - alanblaby - 16 December 2014 10:43 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 16 December 2014 11:24 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 16 December 2014 11:44 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 16 December 2014 11:52 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Jaymack - 17 December 2014 09:34 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - BillI - 17 December 2014 06:55 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - dickllewellyn - 17 December 2014 08:09 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - alanblaby - 17 December 2014 08:46 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 17 December 2014 09:12 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 17 December 2014 09:17 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 17 December 2014 09:58 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 17 December 2014 12:10 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - SandyBoiler - 19 December 2014 05:43 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 17 December 2014 04:26 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - dickllewellyn - 17 December 2014 06:22 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 17 December 2014 07:29 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 17 December 2014 07:48 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 17 December 2014 10:43 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 18 December 2014 02:34 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - napitprofessional - 18 December 2014 02:27 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 18 December 2014 02:24 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 18 December 2014 04:32 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 18 December 2014 04:51 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 18 December 2014 05:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 18 December 2014 05:26 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 18 December 2014 05:49 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 18 December 2014 06:37 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - SandyBoiler - 18 December 2014 07:10 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - jcm256 - 18 December 2014 07:28 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 18 December 2014 08:05 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 18 December 2014 07:45 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 18 December 2014 08:12 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 18 December 2014 08:30 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 18 December 2014 10:35 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - gkenyon - 19 December 2014 09:33 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 19 December 2014 10:12 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - CopperRod - 19 December 2014 06:28 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Bhilly - 19 December 2014 08:53 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 19 December 2014 10:28 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - ebee - 19 December 2014 10:53 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 19 December 2014 02:51 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - bowmandj - 19 December 2014 03:07 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 19 December 2014 05:56 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - SandyBoiler - 19 December 2014 06:12 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 20 December 2014 08:48 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - SandyBoiler - 20 December 2014 11:18 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - bowmandj - 20 December 2014 11:41 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - bowmandj - 20 December 2014 11:59 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 20 December 2014 02:30 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 20 December 2014 05:26 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - SandyBoiler - 20 December 2014 07:36 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Zoro - 21 December 2014 11:05 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - SandyBoiler - 21 December 2014 03:06 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - rogerbryant - 22 December 2014 03:52 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - bowmandj - 20 December 2014 07:11 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 21 December 2014 11:59 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - AJJewsbury - 22 December 2014 04:09 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 22 December 2014 04:22 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 22 December 2014 08:50 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 22 December 2014 09:00 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - leckie - 22 December 2014 09:50 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - peteTLM - 22 December 2014 07:11 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - mapj1 - 22 December 2014 11:06 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 23 December 2014 09:49 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Phillron - 23 December 2014 10:41 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 23 December 2014 09:53 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - FizzleBang - 23 December 2014 10:03 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 23 December 2014 10:11 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 24 December 2014 08:27 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Phillron - 24 December 2014 05:21 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 02 January 2015 09:44 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Brilec - 03 January 2015 11:38 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - phantom9 - 03 January 2015 12:20 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - spinlondon - 03 January 2015 12:46 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Brilec - 03 January 2015 01:48 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Brilec - 03 January 2015 01:48 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - alanblaby - 03 January 2015 01:55 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Brilec - 03 January 2015 03:19 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - alancapon - 03 January 2015 03:35 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - sparkingchip - 03 January 2015 07:41 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - paulskyrme - 03 January 2015 08:01 PM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 04 January 2015 03:34 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - davezawadi - 04 January 2015 03:43 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - BillI - 04 January 2015 05:43 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - GeoffBlackwell - 04 January 2015 06:15 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - Boolean - 04 January 2015 10:12 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - potential - 04 January 2015 11:01 AM  
 Have I gone mad or did i just hear that right ? No plastic fuseboards.   - BillI - 04 January 2015 11:21 AM  
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Originally posted by: davezawadi
There will be no "satisfactory" EICRs for the next 10 years, which may suit some cowboys but puts the entire industry into disrepute for little benefit.

Why would this be so when the regulations are not retrospective?
Also, it should not be a major hiccup for the makers, giving a pressing or two, since the internals of CU's are unchanged. Steel or aluminium bodies are possibilities.

And, the use of the increased stockpile of reclaimed tin cans etc. needs to be used somewhere! Now then, how can we find an increased useage for plastic, glass and paper?

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Originally posted by: Jaymack

Originally posted by: davezawadi

There will be no "satisfactory" EICRs for the next 10 years, which may suit some cowboys but puts the entire industry into disrepute for little benefit.


Why would this be so when the regulations are not retrospective?



Hi jaymack, sorry to jump in front of dave, but for an EICR you have to compare the existing installation to the current regs.......not too long ago there was a code 4 - ie you could state that a non compliance was noted - where a code 3 is the minimum applicable code these days, and the principle in question is one of a fire risk it will take a brave inspector to issue a satisfactory judgement that theres no risk of fire posed by an existing 'plastic' enclosure?

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Thanks Weirdbeard.

You are absolutely correct! Obviously Jaymack could do with a 2391 update seminar, perhaps he would like to pay me £500 for a quick hour long one.

As inspectors we issue EICRs against the current regulations and this in my view should be a C1 as allegedly this is a severe fire risk. Note that there is no account of the terminal tightness (with a torque wrench if necessary) but any combustible case is banned! Note that current plastic CUs have cases made of plastic which has flame retardants and therefore do not support combustion, but this is no longer satisfactory. The London FB say that fires are caused by the non fire supporting cases so they must go. They do not say (very important this) that fires are caused because the householders do not have EICRs every 5 years, which in my view would be the competent comment, no they say that the plastic is the problem!

I really wonder what is behind this. Have they been primed by the ESC, or their latest charity (as it happens very badly) or some other safety body with unknown credentials (but not the HSE who we know and understand) to make a stand on this? I have now contacted my MP too, because this is not normal. Something is behind these vague and unsubstantiated claims that this is a major cause of house fires, and therefore is worth perhaps £10 billion of taxpayers money. That is the cost of rebuilding perhaps 100,000 dwellings, or 25,000 mansions but is that reasonable? It is also the normally assessed value of 10,000 lives, so where are we going? Is this just a case of H&S gone mad or is there more to it?

It seems to me that this is political not engineering. What is happening? Is London undergoing another great fire from the CU? I haven't seen one yet so probably not. Clearly Engineers are not in control here, they are rational beings who work with facts, and this is so far from fact as to be farcical. You never know, I may be a modern day Samuel Pepys here!

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Originally posted by: weirdbeard
Hi jaymack, sorry to jump in front of dave, but for an EICR you have to compare the existing installation to the current regs.......not too long ago there was a code 4 - ie you could state that a non compliance was noted - where a code 3 is the minimum applicable code these days, and the principle in question is one of a fire risk it will take a brave inspector to issue a satisfactory judgement that theres no risk of fire posed by an existing 'plastic' enclosure?

So you are saying that the plastic type requires to be changed in view of the current regulations. Poppycock! Rather inspect the internals and tighten connections.

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That is not how it is now in England at least Jaymack.
EICRs are to the current regulations and deviations are coded C1-C3. As plastic fuse boards are now not permitted at all, this must be a C1 and "unsatisfactory" outcome so selling or insuring your house may be difficult!

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Originally posted by: davezawadi
That is not how it is now in England at least Jaymack.

EICRs are to the current regulations and deviations are coded C1-C3. As plastic fuse boards are now not permitted at all, this must be a C1 and "unsatisfactory" outcome so selling or insuring your house may be difficult!

Let's wait and see what the ESC bods and others say on the matter, I doubt that this change to the regulations, is going to result in unnecessary expenditure for buyers and/or sellers; rather certify that there are no signs of distress, and tighten all screws inside D.B.'s; and add tick boxes specifically for this in reports, but maybe that's too sensible.

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Originally posted by: Jaymack

Originally posted by: weirdbeard

Hi jaymack, sorry to jump in front of dave, but for an EICR you have to compare the existing installation to the current regs.......not too long ago there was a code 4 - ie you could state that a non compliance was noted - where a code 3 is the minimum applicable code these days, and the principle in question is one of a fire risk it will take a brave inspector to issue a satisfactory judgement that theres no risk of fire posed by an existing 'plastic' enclosure?


So you are saying that the plastic type requires to be changed in view of the current regulations. Poppycock! Rather inspect the internals and tighten connections.



Hi jaymack, moving away from EICRs, how about installations.....not too long ago in the 16th edition an electrician could move a light switch from one side of a bedroom door to the other , these days it's pretty much taboo to do the same job without at least an RCD fused spur becoming involved, or preferably an RCBO for the whole circuit according to the guidance......will you feel comfortable signing an EIC declaring that a new circuit connected into an existing non non-ferrous ie steel, plastic enclosure, that BS7671 (as ammended) has been complied with...?

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But Jaymack, we haven't even established that the fires are due to loose connections have we? So tightening the screws won't do much good if its something else, like the MCBs getting too hot. As I said, and now ask, how many of you have found burnt loose terminals where a proper fire has not started, and so the evidence is still in place.

Anything which is stated in the regs as not permitted is immediately a C1 in my book. For example undersized cables, excessive Zs above the stated limits, and all the rest. Do you really code installations as satisfactory just because they have not yet proved to be immediately dangerous? I think not.

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Originally posted by: davezawadi


Anything which is stated in the regs as not permitted is immediately a C1 in my book.


Hi Dave i think a C1 is a bit harsh, I agree with sparking chips earlier post, either a C3, or C2, depending on whether or not the inspector considers the existing installation to be satisfactory, or not.

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Originally posted by: davezawadi[/i

Anything which is stated in the regs as not permitted is immediately a C1 in my book. For example undersized cables, excessive Zs above the stated limits, and all the rest. Do you really code installations as satisfactory just because they have not yet proved to be immediately dangerous? I think not.


Well you might think that undersized cables, excessive Zs values are C1, but this document does not agree!

http://www.electricalsafetyfir...t-Practice-Guide-4.pdf
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Hi Leckie

I do class all of those as dangerous, possibly only potentially dangerous. But this one is different and well beyond the content of this leaflet by a self proclaiming vested interest.

Bare conductors which are possibly within reach are not permitted. They are potentially dangerous, but not immediately dangerous. These should be coded as C1. These CUs have been deemed to be likely to be the cause of fires, which are potentially dangerous, but are not permitted either. An installation in a petrol station with inadequate Ex equipment is also only potentially dangerous. All of these should be coded as C1 because none of therm are permitted in Amdt3. This dangerous classification is simply a mechanism to allow often rather inadequately informed inspectors to give codings to domestic disasters such as cracked sockets, cables hanging off the walls, unearthed metal lampholders etc.

Inadequately low Zs, incorrect cables sizes etc. are serious defects with potentially serious consequences, either electric shock due to extended disconnection time or fire. The ESF have forgotten that all circuits do not have RCDs, or that overloaded cables get very hot after a period. Fires are always very serious indeed, fumes are often lethal even if someone is not burned. These seem to be considered C2 by ESF, whereas it depends on the exact circumstances, a 1.5mm cable feeding a 12kW shower (yes I have found this) is a C1, as is a Zs of 10 ohms for a ring circuit with no RCD present.

This is a toy leaflet directed at inexperienced domestic installers who dare to do a EICR. In my view it is representative of the quality of the ESF and all the other offshoots of vested interests which are bringing the industry into disrepute. It has all of the experience of a non-inspector of the inexperienced kind written all over and throughout its contents.

I am expecting the ESF to come out with a document saying that prohibited items are perfectly fine as long as they complied with a previous version of the regs. This is not the inspection standard! Prohibited items must be coded as though it were a new installation to the current regulations otherwise the whole process is flawed and redress may be available against the inspector if an incident occurs (and they do at one a day according the the fire service). As inspector you have a duty of care which you must take seriously or face prosecution under the HSAW act. Failure to realise a publicised danger, such as this, could lead to bankruptcy and prison very easily. Until there are a few test cases, you won't know but coroners keep taking a very serious attitude to cases like this and recommend prosecution. Look what has happened in one or two gas cases which are fairly similar in outcomes.

You should be aware that I think that this CU business is fully flawed, that evidence is very weak and that much more investigation by fully competent forensic engineers is required. Unfortunately we have to operate according to the regulations even if they are not to our liking, and are a knee jerk reaction to an unverified claim.

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Well I agree that the BPG's are all just guides, and different situations call for differents codes. This is rather a long thread and I have only just scanned through the various comments and opinions. I assume your position is that WHEN the new regulation is in place, and you are carrying out an EICR, that you will be giving a C1 for plastic consumers units that you find installed. So that would be nearly every dwelling in the country. Well I think we had best wait for the regulation to be put in writing in the new book and see how the industry, insurers, HSE, etc interpret the requirements before we start reaching any firm conclusions.

Regarding general codes for other items on EICR's, I think giving C1 or C2 to items should be done with great care. Claims for unnecessary cost incurred due to over zealous codes may affect PI just as much as being to lenient.
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Also, I'm not sure referring to petrol filling stations is really a fair comparison to make. The electrical inspection and testing of filling stations is covered in the "blue book" and I wouldn't imagine many contractors carrying out domestic EICR's would be carrying out Periodic Inspections to a filling station.
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Technical document from BEAMA

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enjoy .

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Originally posted by: weirdbeard
it will take a brave inspector to issue a satisfactory judgement that theres no risk of fire posed by an existing 'plastic' enclosure?

Not brave, just being pragmatic in a rational way. Change a C.U. just because it's plastic, after having proved there are no signs of distress, I don't think so! If it were the case that they had to be changed in the future, what would happen to the stocks of plastic ones now; there would be increased cost implications for the consumer, not to mention the availability of metal D.B.'s! I installed a plastic jobbie a few weeks ago, now it's imminently becoming non-conforming - poppycock!

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