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Topic Title: EMMA SHAW CASE
Topic Summary: Result of the Court case
Created On: 31 March 2014 04:35 pm
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 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 31 March 2014 04:35 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 31 March 2014 05:19 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 31 March 2014 05:23 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 31 March 2014 05:26 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 31 March 2014 05:30 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - impvan - 31 March 2014 05:31 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - rocknroll - 31 March 2014 05:46 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - perspicacious - 31 March 2014 06:02 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - jcm256 - 31 March 2014 06:03 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - aligarjon - 31 March 2014 08:21 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - jcm256 - 31 March 2014 08:53 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - aligarjon - 31 March 2014 10:26 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 31 March 2014 11:54 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - antric2 - 01 April 2014 12:40 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 01 April 2014 09:23 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - davezawadi - 01 April 2014 10:57 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 01 April 2014 11:17 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mapj1 - 01 April 2014 12:41 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - antric2 - 01 April 2014 12:46 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - aligarjon - 01 April 2014 08:07 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 09:15 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - weirdbeard - 01 April 2014 03:27 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 11:15 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 11:36 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 01 April 2014 12:23 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 01 April 2014 01:14 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 01 April 2014 01:43 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 01:22 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - davezawadi - 01 April 2014 02:14 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - ennel - 01 April 2014 07:07 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 02 April 2014 10:20 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - weirdbeard - 01 April 2014 03:21 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 01 April 2014 03:28 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 03:15 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 03:27 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 01 April 2014 03:36 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 09:05 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 09:10 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 10:16 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 02 April 2014 12:00 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 06:57 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 09:15 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 09:21 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 09:38 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mapj1 - 02 April 2014 10:26 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 12:06 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 12:14 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mapj1 - 02 April 2014 01:20 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 01:50 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 03:04 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 04:13 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - GeoffBlackwell - 02 April 2014 04:22 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - rocknroll - 02 April 2014 04:26 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 05:50 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 06:36 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zuiko - 02 April 2014 07:02 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - geoffsd - 02 April 2014 07:33 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 08:24 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 11:38 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mawry - 03 April 2014 02:39 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - briandoherty - 06 April 2014 06:09 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zs - 07 April 2014 07:27 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mawry - 08 April 2014 11:13 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mikejumper - 08 April 2014 07:46 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - napitprofessional - 09 April 2014 12:06 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 09 April 2014 10:50 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - napitprofessional - 09 April 2014 02:01 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 08:23 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Parsley - 02 April 2014 10:30 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - electricman - 02 April 2014 11:06 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - ericmark - 03 April 2014 02:37 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 04 April 2014 09:20 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 06 April 2014 03:53 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - electricman - 08 April 2014 11:19 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 08 April 2014 11:23 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mikejumper - 09 April 2014 04:42 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 09 April 2014 05:14 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - psychicwarrior - 10 April 2014 08:56 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - napitprofessional - 11 April 2014 05:54 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - davezawadi - 12 April 2014 11:46 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 12 April 2014 12:33 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 12 April 2014 01:21 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - weirdbeard - 12 April 2014 06:28 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 12 April 2014 06:51 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - weirdbeard - 12 April 2014 08:11 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 12 April 2014 10:57 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 12 April 2014 04:02 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Grobbyman - 12 April 2014 05:44 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 12 April 2014 06:11 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Fm - 12 April 2014 11:26 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 12 April 2014 11:37 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Fm - 12 April 2014 11:40 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 13 April 2014 12:04 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 13 April 2014 09:25 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 14 April 2014 10:13 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - potential - 14 April 2014 10:32 am  
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 09 April 2014 10:50 am
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Zoro

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Nobody should take comfort at the thought of not testing, in the case of Emma Shaw, that maybe the fault may not have been found by testing to BS7671.

By forensic examination and evidence given in court, the screw was touching both live and cpc, which IR tests before energisation would have found.

After the incident the IR tests carried out, gave a reading of 0.2M ohm, even when the screw threads had been blown away by the fault current.

No dead test were carried out, and test results were made up, and entered onto the certificate by the Non competent, Unqualified Certifier.

The QS certified that he had checked the NICEIC certificate, but it had multiple errors. The QS has a personal responsibility to supervise but he did not, he has a personal responsibility to check the certificate he did not.

Part P Schemes are based on the flawed NICEIC QS system, they do not require individual Competence I believe this was a contributing factor.

The fact that the NICEIC are fighting to retain this system on the basis that it would be to expensive is disgusting, especially when they are owned by the Electrical Safety Council, or whatever they are calling themselves this week.

It was good that the Select Committee rejected this propaganda and told the Schemes to comply with having individual Competence. The only expense would be to contractors that charge for an Electrician and don't supply one.

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 09 April 2014 02:01 pm
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napitprofessional

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How will the public react to being charged more for what they already think they are paying for and getting .....

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