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Topic Title: EMMA SHAW CASE
Topic Summary: Result of the Court case
Created On: 31 March 2014 04:35 pm
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 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 31 March 2014 04:35 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 31 March 2014 05:19 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 31 March 2014 05:23 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 31 March 2014 05:26 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 31 March 2014 05:30 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - impvan - 31 March 2014 05:31 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - rocknroll - 31 March 2014 05:46 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - perspicacious - 31 March 2014 06:02 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - jcm256 - 31 March 2014 06:03 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - aligarjon - 31 March 2014 08:21 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - jcm256 - 31 March 2014 08:53 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - aligarjon - 31 March 2014 10:26 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 31 March 2014 11:54 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - antric2 - 01 April 2014 12:40 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 01 April 2014 09:23 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - davezawadi - 01 April 2014 10:57 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 01 April 2014 11:17 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mapj1 - 01 April 2014 12:41 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - antric2 - 01 April 2014 12:46 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - aligarjon - 01 April 2014 08:07 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 09:15 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - weirdbeard - 01 April 2014 03:27 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 11:15 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 11:36 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 01 April 2014 12:23 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 01 April 2014 01:14 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 01 April 2014 01:43 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 01:22 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - davezawadi - 01 April 2014 02:14 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - ennel - 01 April 2014 07:07 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 02 April 2014 10:20 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - weirdbeard - 01 April 2014 03:21 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 01 April 2014 03:28 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 03:15 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 01 April 2014 03:27 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 01 April 2014 03:36 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 09:05 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 09:10 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 10:16 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 02 April 2014 12:00 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 06:57 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 09:15 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 09:21 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 09:38 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mapj1 - 02 April 2014 10:26 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 12:06 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 12:14 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mapj1 - 02 April 2014 01:20 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 01:50 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 03:04 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 04:13 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - GeoffBlackwell - 02 April 2014 04:22 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - rocknroll - 02 April 2014 04:26 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 05:50 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 06:36 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zuiko - 02 April 2014 07:02 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - geoffsd - 02 April 2014 07:33 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 02 April 2014 08:24 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 02 April 2014 11:38 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mawry - 03 April 2014 02:39 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - briandoherty - 06 April 2014 06:09 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zs - 07 April 2014 07:27 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mawry - 08 April 2014 11:13 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mikejumper - 08 April 2014 07:46 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - napitprofessional - 09 April 2014 12:06 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 09 April 2014 10:50 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - napitprofessional - 09 April 2014 02:01 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 02 April 2014 08:23 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Parsley - 02 April 2014 10:30 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - electricman - 02 April 2014 11:06 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - ericmark - 03 April 2014 02:37 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 04 April 2014 09:20 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 06 April 2014 03:53 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - electricman - 08 April 2014 11:19 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - AJJewsbury - 08 April 2014 11:23 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - mikejumper - 09 April 2014 04:42 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 09 April 2014 05:14 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - psychicwarrior - 10 April 2014 08:56 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - napitprofessional - 11 April 2014 05:54 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - davezawadi - 12 April 2014 11:46 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 12 April 2014 12:33 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - John Peckham - 12 April 2014 01:21 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - weirdbeard - 12 April 2014 06:28 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 12 April 2014 06:51 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - weirdbeard - 12 April 2014 08:11 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 12 April 2014 10:57 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 12 April 2014 04:02 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Grobbyman - 12 April 2014 05:44 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Zoro - 12 April 2014 06:11 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Fm - 12 April 2014 11:26 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 12 April 2014 11:37 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - Fm - 12 April 2014 11:40 pm  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - sparkingchip - 13 April 2014 12:04 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - phantom9 - 13 April 2014 09:25 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - OMS - 14 April 2014 10:13 am  
 EMMA SHAW CASE   - potential - 14 April 2014 10:32 am  
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 02 April 2014 01:20 pm
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mapj1

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But it was clearly more than 6 months after the installation - then the statute of limitations of the magistrates courts act 1980 section 127 or whatever it's been updated too by now kicks in, and muddies the water, as simply failing to meet building regs alone, is a non-inditable offence.
In this case, installing and failing notify or to inspect alone would be un-prosecutable after 6 months if nothing else happened. I think in certain special cases, like not meeting environmental standards, there is a longer time limit.

Of course, really its far more serious in this case as there are overrtones of conspiracy to deliberately fake results, not to mention the actual fatality itself, so it makes sense to use a law with more bite.
I still wonder what folk would be saying if the tests had actually been performed to standard, and had recorded a pass on the day. I'm reasonably confindent that eevn if not this time, there are situations where a screw could in principle catch the live core and a non-grounded something else that can be touched later, and still evade detection by typical test intstruments on a dry day. Perhaps we should have a higher IR test limit requiring investigation, at least for brand new installations?
regards M.

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