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 21 March 2019 01:10 pm
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Kingfisher is closing its 19 Screwfix stores in Germany, with the loss of 250 jobs, but will continue to operate its online business in the country.

A sign of the times perhaps?

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 21 March 2019 01:22 pm
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dustydazzler

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The events company I sometimes do weekend work for is making 40% of its staff redundant this month
 21 March 2019 02:12 pm
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mapj1

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but it seems ambitions to expand into Ireland so mixed news really.

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 21 March 2019 04:34 pm
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RB1981

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Originally posted by: mapj1

but it seems ambitions to expand into Ireland so mixed news really.


It somewhat concerns me that they sell cable which is prohibited for use in the south of Ireland.

I wonder whether they will sell inappropriate electrical installation products into the 26-County market, or indeed whether they will refuse to sell electrical installation materials due to Restricted Electrical Works legislation which prohibits anyone other than a Registered Electrical Contractor (REC) from carrying out almost any electrical work in the home.

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 21 March 2019 06:57 pm
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Originally posted by: dustydazzler

The events company I sometimes do weekend work for is making 40% of its staff redundant this month



Prices are rising on almost everything that consumers need. Energy costs are rising. The Institute of Fiscal Studies says that the U.K. should expect 15 years of tax rises. The Chancellor proposes more tax rises on the horizon.

People will be less inclined to spend any money that they do have. Times is gettin' harder for tradespeople and retailers.

Recession is nigh.

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 21 March 2019 08:10 pm
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dustydazzler

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I agree

We are probably only a few months away from a recession
 21 March 2019 08:59 pm
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Fm

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Sounds like Lee and AJ are back. Chuckle Brothers ??
 21 March 2019 09:24 pm
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rocknroll

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That name is already taken its now the 'Dazzle Brothers' from me to you.

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 23 March 2019 10:51 am
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It somewhat concerns me that they sell cable which is prohibited for use in the south of Ireland.

I wonder whether they will sell inappropriate electrical installation products into the 26-County market, or indeed whether they will refuse to sell electrical installation materials due to Restricted Electrical Works legislation which prohibits anyone other than a Registered Electrical Contractor (REC) from carrying out almost any electrical work in the home.


I'm not so worried - there are already on-line wholesalers who server both the ROI and UK markets - typically the just have some words in the description where things aren't suitable for both. I'm not sure that the point of sale is the correct place for restrictions anyway - just because the purchaser is based in one territory it doesn't mean that the equipment will be installed there - or indeed installed by the person doing the purchasing. I known builders buy a gas boiler for one of their projects even though a gas-safe engineer actually fits it (because the builder can get better discounts that way).

I even feel it can be quite healthy to have an exchange of ideas and equipment between different territories - I rather like being able to buy brown/blue/GY 3-core SWA for use in the UK even though it was intended for the Irish market - and perhaps the Irish might like the occasional steel CU.

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 23 March 2019 12:13 pm
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There won't be the freedom to use materials from EU countries, we will be restricted to using products with UK certification, so potentially the healthy exchange of ideas and equipment will be restricted.

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 23 March 2019 12:22 pm
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I was talking to a guy who went to Germany to work for a home improvement company and he said it is completely different to the UK inthat you do not have "multi-skilled" trades people to the point where a specialist puts the silicone sealant around the bath and neither the plumber or tiler will do it.

It sounds like when I was involved in installing a sink and base unit in a hospital in the 1970's in a NHS hospital for the nurses to make a cup of tea or coffee, thirty two people were involved with that with three separate plumbing contractors sending a guy, one for the cold tap, one for the hot tap and another one for the waste and obviously the bricklayer had to cut the holes in the walls for them.

The idea of one guy going to Screwfix to get all the materials for a job may be alien to the Germans.

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 23 March 2019 12:33 pm
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I watched a documentary a few years about the HOOF House company .
They have a team of about 40-50 trade men who come over to do the build.
1 electrician would do the first fix , another completely different electricain would do the AV , another electrician did the second fix and testing etc...
It is a more regimented process.
Everyone has their specific role on the job.
Where as now in the UK I have worked with builders who do all their own plumbing , wiring , ceramic tiling and painting etc
 23 March 2019 02:50 pm
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rocknroll

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LOL Why have all you lot come back over here from the 'community' wont the real engineers talk to you.

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 23 March 2019 08:42 pm
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Fm

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Come on play nicely or you will get another ban!
 24 March 2019 03:56 pm
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RB1981

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Originally posted by: AJJewsbury

and perhaps the Irish might like the occasional steel CU.


The problem with that is that the distribution boards used in domestic premises in the south of Ireland are quite different to those used in the UK. For example there is only a single pole isolator/switch fuse, they are generally 2-row or 3-row and they use RCBOs which switch the neutral (generally double module).

Although interestingly the Draft for Public Enquiry of the 5th Edition does include a draft rule that domestic distribution boards be made of non-combustible material or enclosed in a cabinet made from non-combustible material. Clearly this idea has come from the IET involvement in TC2 of the NSAI.

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