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Topic Title: Emergency Lighting
Topic Summary: Definition of "place of Safety"
Created On: 11 February 2019 02:56 PM
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 11 February 2019 02:56 PM
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ale3andra

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EN 1838 sets a requirement for emergency lighting (escape route lighting light levels 1lx etc) to a place of safety outside a building. Whose responsibility is to define a place of safety?
 11 February 2019 05:20 PM
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broadgage

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In general it would be down to the fire risk assessment, unless some statutory body has stipulated a particular distance or a specific place.

A few meters will suffice in most cases. In the rare situation of a narrow or uneven external escape route, then this may need emergency lighting throughout, but in most cases a few meters from the final exit is sufficient.
Once escapees are out in the open and clear of the exit, they are probably safe from immediate danger, and reliance can usually be placed upon street lighting, lights on vehicles, or flashlights.

In the exceptional case of remote premises, external spaces may need emergency lighting. Last year I did a job for a sporting club in a remote rural area. I judged that the end of the pitch nearest to the club house needed emergency lighting in order that persons fleeing a fire had somewhere safe to assemble. And also for anyone practising after dark if the power failed.
 11 February 2019 05:29 PM
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mapj1

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Normally the same person responsible for the fire risk assesments or more often in a complex case, whoever they delegate, That will vary by building, in a house it is the owner, but in somerthing like a church hall it is the running comittee.

As a good start, further away from the outside walls than the building is tall, and neither a dead end nor in the way of incoming fire appliances, unless it is very tall, like a block of flats, where you would be best to seek professional advice, as the better strategy may be stay put, or to have short term refuges at intermediate levels.
In terms of light, once you get outside, quite often light from other sources - street lights or other buildings, may mean it is not part of that installation.

edit - composed while the post above appeared..

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regards Mike
 12 February 2019 12:16 PM
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ale3andra

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Thank you both!

The remote places scenario and the dead ends make perfect sense...
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